Lemon Law Blog

Late last month, we worked on an investigative report with WTAE TV reporter Paul Van Osdel, uncovering which cars provides the most headaches for drivers throughout the Keystone State. Paul obtained a list from PENNDot (Pennsylvania Department of Transportation) and according to their records, from 2003-2008, Chevrolet led the list of lemons in Pennsylvania. Their list is as follows:

Chevrolet (their story featured 1-800 LEMON LAW client Sarah Griffith of Monroeville, who received a complete buyback after suffering problems with her Trailblazer)

Ford
Dodge
Nissan
Suzuki
Jeep
Hyundai
Cadillac
Volkswagen
GMC

We find this list to be rather incomplete, as it only covers vehicles that were purchased back from the manufacturer and officially titled as lemons. The list does not include vehicles where consumers received thousands of dollar in monetary damages and were able to keep their cars.

Being that we are the oldest and largest lemon law firm in Western Pennsylvania, Paul asked us to compile a list of the cars we see the most in our Pittsburgh caseload. Although he didn’t have time for the information in the story, we thought it would be interesting to give our top 10:
Chevrolet Cobalt
Chevrolet Impala
Chevrolet Silverado
Chevrolet Malibu
Jeep Grand Cherokee
Jeep Liberty
Chevrolet Equinox
Kia Sedona
Pontiac G6
Saturn VUE
Jeep Commander
Jeep Wrangler

and of course, to view the cars that receive the most complaints nationally per sales, check out the 2009 Car Complaint Index.

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When Bob Silverman & Craig Kimmel formed Kimmel & Silverman eighteen years ago, they had one goal in mind–to equal the playing field between the consumer and the billion-dollar automotive manufacturer, using State & Federal Laws that many consumers were not aware of.  Best of all, the legal help under these laws is completely FREE to the consumer. 

For the life of us, we cannot understand why consumers still insist on trying to do this by themselves, when you can have access to an experienced attorney who has worked on thousands of lemon law and breach of warranty claims (not only that, but we have three ASE-certified mechanics on staff to inspect our clients’ vehicles and research their issues.)  The other day, a gentleman called with a real problem–he was two years into a four-year lease and he was experiencing many problems with his power-train.  Being that he thought he had a “slam dunk” case, he decided to represent himself through the NJ Lemon Law unit.  He couldn’t get a mechanic to testify on his behalf. The manufacturer hired attorneys to oppose his claim.  He ended being offered a very minimal settlement which only covered a few lease payments.  He now has decided to buy himself out of his lease, which means he is going to take a huge financial hit.  This is all because he thought he could handle this on his own.  We have seen many other claims where the consumer was promised a new car, only it turned out to be a trade and the consumer found themselves stuck in a terrible situation.  If you are not a doctor, can you diagnose someone with a chest pain? If you are not a contractor, can you build a house and ensure it’s going to last the test of time?  The legal help is free, the participation is minimal.  You can keep driving your car throughout the entire process….if you don’t take advantage of what the Law provides, then you are partly to blame for whatever happens.

We know that It sounds too good to be true, but we can assure you it is for real. You can read the many consumer stories we have in our on-line newsroom, or just take a look at some of our recent victories from the last quarter. The following are some of the repurchases we have successfully obtained in the last four months.  These clients received all taxes, tags, finance charges, monthly payments and value on their trade-ins, minus a very small mileage offset normally based on the mileage when they first brought the car to the authorized manufacturers dealership for service.  And how much did they pay for legal fees?  if you answered “nothing,” you get a gold star!

• 2007 Nissan Quest — repurchase under MA Lemon Law
• 2008 Nissan XTerra — repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2007 Nissan Quest — repurchase under NJ Lemon Law
• 2005 Nissan Murano — repurchase under PA Lemon Law (client had 26,800 miles when he called us.)
• 2005 Nissan Altima — repurchase under PA Lemon Law (client had 30,126 miles when he called us.)
• 2007 Chevrolet Silverado — Two repurchases in last four months under PA Lemon Law
• 2008 Chevrolet Colorado — repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2008 Chevrolet HHR — repurchase under NJ Lemon Law (settled in 28 days)
• 2007 Chevrolet Trailblazer — repurchase under PA Lemon Law (settled in 19 days)
• 2008 Chevrolet Cobalt — repurchase under NJ Lemon Law
• 2007 GMC Sierra — repurchase under NJ Lemon Law
• 2007 GMC Yukon — repurchase under PA Lemon Law (settled in 20 days)
• 2008 GMC Arcadia — repurchase under NJ Lemon Law (settled in 27 days)
• 2007 GMC Arcadia — repurchase under DE Lemon Law
• 2008 GMC Envoy — repurchase under OH Lemon Law (settled in 19 days)
• 2008 GMC Yukon — repurchase under OH Lemon Law
• 2006 Cadillac CTS — repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2007 Cadillac SRX — repurchase under MA Lemon Law
• 2006 Cadillac XLRV — repurchase under MA Lemon Law
• 2008 Cadillac CTS — repurchase under NJ Lemon Law
• 2008 Saturn Vue — repurchase under PA Lemon Law (settled in 12 days)
• 2008 Saturn ION — repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2007 Saturn ION — repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2008 Hummer H3 — repurchase under NJ Lemon Law
• 2006 Suzuki Forenza — repurchase under VT Lemon Law
• 2008 Audi A4 — repurchase under NH Lemon Law
• 2006 Hyundai Elantra — repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2007 Dodge Ram — Two repurchases under PA Lemon Law
• 2007 Dodge Ram — Two repurchases under VT Lemon Law
• 2008 Dodge Ram – repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2007 Dodge Caliber — repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2008 Dodge Caliber –repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan — repurchase under NJ Lemon Law
• 2008 Chrysler Sebring Convertible — repurchase under OH Lemon Law
• 2008 Chrysler Sebring Convertible — repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2007 Chrysler Town & Country — repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2008 Jeep Patriot — repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2006 Jeep Wrangler — repurchase under OH Lemon Law
• 2007 Jeep Commander — repurchase under OH Lemon Law
• 2007 Jeep Wrangler — repurchase under NJ Lemon Law
• 2006 Toyota Scion — repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2007 Toyota Solara –repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2008 Toyota Corolla — repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2008 Lexus LS460 — repurchase under NJ Lemon Law
• 2007 Lexus ES350 –repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2006 Lexus LX470 — repurchase under NJ Lemon Law
• 2007 Lexus GS300 — repurchase under PA Lemon Law
• 2008 Lexus GS400 — repurchase under OH Lemon Law
• 2005 Ford Mustang — repurchase under PA Lemon Law

Now, remember this is a legal process, so we can’t guarantee that you will receive a repurchase if you open a claim with us, but it could be possible.

Under the Laws we work with, a repurchase is the maximum remedy a consumer can receive.  Repurchases are reserved where the consumer has suffered a significant non-conformity which has affected the use, value and safety of the vehicle, and the problem has reoccurred repeatedly.  Another possible remedy under the Lemon Law is a new car. This known as an MSRP to MSRP swap, which is essentially a trade without the depreciation you would normally suffer.  As you know, the minute you drive a car off the lot, the value of the car depreciates significantly.  If you receive a swap, we take the MSRP from the sticker price of your car and apply it to the MSRP of a brand new car.  So, essentially you are getting a brand new car with the same features, and you have the same amount of equity in the new car as you did in the old car. The depreciation you would normally deal with does not apply.

There is also a third remedy under the State Lemon Laws and most commonly under the Federal Magnuson Moss Warranty Act–significant monetary compensation to reflect the diminished value of the vehicle for the problems you have incurred. This could apply if it is fixed after three repairs; if the problem is not threatening the overall use, value, or safety f the vehicle (i.e. radio);  it falls outside the lemon law mileage provisions; or if you purchased the car used but it still has a manufacturers warranty.  If you receive money, it is non-taxable and YOU GET TO KEEP YOUR CAR and your car is not branded in any way, shape or form.  Plus, your warranty remains completely in effect, so the manufacturer  is  still obligated to fix the car if problems persist, and you do not need to disclose that you received this money at time of trade or sale.  You may do whatever you want with the money.  You may have previously read in our blog about the Volvo SUV owner who received $7,000 after he heard Communications Director Michael Sacks on the radio. Here are some other folks who received monetary awards in the last four months(All of these folks kept their vehicles and had their attorney fees paid sepearately by the manufacturer):

• 2008 Volvo C70 — problems with convertible top, fixed after 4th attempt. Client received $10,000.
• 2008 Ford Ranger — client received $5,000.
• 2007 Ford Expedition — client received $6,000.
• 2005 Ford F350 — client received $7,000.
• 2007 Ford Expedition – client received $4,000.
• 2008 Toyota Rav 4 — client received $5,500.
• 2009 Dodge Journey purchased in another state but registered in PA — client received $6,750.
• 2006 Dodge Caravan –client received $5,250.
• 2007 Jeep Liberty — client received $5,000.
• 2006 Chrysler Town & Country with 32,000 miles — client received $3,250.
• 2006 Subaru Forrester with 61,000 miles — client received $4,000 (settled in 60 days).
• 2008 Land Rover LR 3 with 25,000 miles — client received $4,250.
• 2008 Saab 9-7 with 37,000 miles — client received $5,500.
• 2005 Saab 9-3 with 40,000 miles and the lease almost completed — client received $3,000.
• 2005 Mazda 3 with 50,536 miles — client received $4,000.
• 2006 Mazda 6 purchased used — client received $4,000.
• 2006 Mazda MPV — client received $4,500 (settled in 30 days).
• 2007 Mazda CX9 –client received $5,000 (settled in 45 days).
• 2006 Honda Civic with 32,700 miles, problems fell outside of lemon law — client received $3,500.
• 2005 Chevrolet Tahoe with problem starting at 29,000 miles and lease up – client received $4,000.
• 2005 Chevrolet Impala with problem starting at 25,000 miles — client received $3,000.
• 2004 BMW 7-series certified pre-owned with 56,600 miles — client received $2,500.
• 2004 BMW 5-series with problem starting at 52,000 miles & extended wty – client received $3,000.

And this is just a sampling of the work we have done in the last four months.  Think you have a lemon?    E-mail us you question or call us at 1-800 LEMON LAW (1-800-536-6652) and we will be happy to go over your situation and whether we can help.

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A law that actually helps consumers AND provides free legal help?  It seems too good to be true, but the State and Federal Laws do provide equal footing between you and the billion-dollar automobile manufacturer.  This provides you the opportunity to have a Lemon Law Attorney who knows and understands the Laws, who has significant experience fighting these types of claims, and who has immediate access to the decision makers and attorneys who represent the manufacturer.  This attorney and their staff can also offer additional support throughout a difficult time, providing answers to your questions and helping you deal with obstacles you are facing (i.e. a mechanic not diagnosing a problem properly or at all, a service manager refusing to give you paperwork, job tickets being left open so it seems like you are in the shop less than you are.)

The most common question we receive at 1-800 LEMON LAW is “How do I know my car is a lemon?” So, today on the lemon law blog, we thought we would provide a rundown of the lemon laws in each of the States we work in….But first, answers to five of the most frequently asked questions:

First, YOU CAN NOT RETURN A CAR IN THE FIRST 72 HOURS. This is a common misconception from the days of door-to-door sales, when folks would ring your doorbell and sell you a vacuum or a set of encyclopedias. Once you sign on the dotted line, the car is yours.  Period. Make sure that the right price is listed on the contract, make sure you can afford the car, make sure it’s the finance rate you agreed to and for goodness sake, NEVER EVER EVER sign a blank contract!

Second, THE DEFENDANT IS NOT THE DEALER.  Yes, we know the dealer is lovely and we know you don’t want to get them in any trouble.  But, they don’t make the car.  They are the middle man and they have nothing to do with filing a lemon law claim. In fact, when filing a claim, we ask clients not to discuss the case with the service manager or threaten the dealer that you are going to file a suit.  We do not want you to create a hostile relationship between you and the dealer.  Also, we are NOT a fan of last chance letters. So, you give the dealer a last chance to fix it…and they don’t.  Then what?  If you don’t have a lawyer to enforce the letter, you are stuck in a catch-22.  Again, the law offers FREE help–Take advantage of it!

Third, EVEN IF YOU FALL OUTSIDE OF THE LEMON LAW, WE STILL MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU. Do not be discouraged if you have a used car or a motorcycle or ATV in a state that does not cover them. If your problems are covered under an original or extended manufacturers warranty, you could be entitled to MONETARY COMPENSATION, plus you get to keep your vehicle, your warranty remains in full effect, and the vehicle is NOT branded in any way.

Fourth, EVEN IF YOUR CAR IS FIXED AFTER THE THIRD, FOURTH, OR FIFTH REPAIR, you could still be entitled to compensation.  The fact is that every car comes with a manufacturers warranty and that is to ensure that problems are fixed efficiently and effectively and they have not been.  So, we feel you are entitled to money back, significant money, to reflect the diminished value of the car as a result of your problems. Again, if you receive money, the car is NOT branded and the warranty is fully in effect. Plus, the money is non-taxable.

Fifth, THERE ARE THREE POSSIBLE REMEDIES UNDER THE LAWS WE WORK WITH.  Keep in mind this is a legal process, so there are no guarantees, but here is what we are looking at.  Maximum remedy is a full buyback, including taxes, tags, finance charges, etc minus a small mileage offset as prescribed your state.  You return your car to the dealer and it is branded a lemon.  Second, an MSRP to MSRP swap–MSRP stands for manufacturers suggested retail price–basically, you are getting behind the wheel of a brand new car, with same amount of equity as your old car.  It’s trade without depreciation.  Third, if we can’t get a buyback or a swap, we aim to get you as much money as possible in compensation to reflect the diminished value as a result of the problem incurred. Plus, as mentioned before, you get to keep the car.

OK–on that note, here’s a quick rundown of the laws in our states.  For other states, click here.  Have questions?  E-mail us or call 1-800 LEMON LAW (1-800-536-6652).  Here we go:

Pennsylvania Lemon Law :  First problem must occur in first 12 months or 12,000 miles whichever comes first.  Problem must occur three or more times under warranty OR the car is in the shop 30 or more days within the first year, and those days do not have to be consecutive. Car must be purchased (or leased) and registered in PA.  Motorcycles are not covered under PA Lemon Law  (but they are covered under the Federal Magnuson Moss Warranty Act so we can still help!)–Kimmel & Silverman was directly responsible for getting leased cars included under the PA Lemon Law.

New Jersey Lemon Law :  Second most effective Lemon Law in the Nation! First problem must occur in first 24 months or 18,000 miles which ever comes first. Problem must occur three or more times under warranty OR the car is in the shop for 20 days in the first 24 months and they do not have to be consecutive. Motorcycles are covered under NJ Lemon Law. Vehicle can be purchased, leased or registered in New Jersey.

Delaware Lemon Law : First problem must occur in the first year of ownership.  Problem must occur four or more times under warranty OR the car is in the shop 30 or more BUSINESS days in the first year. Vehicle can be purchased, leased or registered in Delaware. Motorcycles are not covered under DE Lemon Law  (but they are covered under the Federal Magnuson Moss Warranty Act so we can still help!)

Massachusetts Lemon Law: First problem must occur in the first year or 15,000 miles whichever comes first. Problem must occur three or more times under warranty OR the car is in the shop 15 BUSINESS days in the first year. Motorcycles are not covered under MA Lemon Law  (but they are covered under the Federal Magnuson Moss Warranty Act so we can still help!)

Ohio Lemon Law : First problem must occur in the first year or 18,000 miles, whichever comes first. Problem must occur three or more times under warranty OR eight problems must occur OR in the shop 30 or more days in the first year. Motorcycles are covered under the OH Lemon Law.

Vermont Lemon Law : First problem must occur three times under warranty period OR in the shop 30 days. Vehciles may be purchased or registered in Vermont.  Motorcycles are not covered under VT Lemon Law  (but they are covered under the Federal Magnuson Moss Warranty Act so we can still help!)

Washington DC Lemon Law : First problem must occur three or more times in the first 2 years or 18,000 miles. Problem must occur 4 or more times under warranty OR be in the shop 30 days in the first two years. Motorcycles are not covered under DC Lemon Law  (but they are covered under the Federal Magnuson Moss Warranty Act so we can still help!)

For more information on your rights, visit lemon law. com or one of our favorite National lemon law websites, Lemon Law America.

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Lemon Law Attorneys Bob Silverman and Jacqueline Herritt were featured on WYOU TV Interactive News last night, discussing consumers rights under the Pennsylvania Lemon Law and the Federal Magnuson Moss Warranty Act.  The program also offered viewers the chance to call in and discuss their lemon horror stories with Kimmel and Silverman staff members. You can watch the video here.

In the meantime, here is a quick refresher on the PA Lemon Law:

• The first problem must occur in the first 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever comes first. (If the problem occurs after the first 12 months, the consumer would have a claim under Federal Law.)
• The problem must significantly affect the use, value or safety of the vehicle.
• The problem must occur three times (or more) under the manufacturers warranty.
• OR the car should be in the shop 30 or more days in the first year and they don’t need to be consecutive.
• Maximum remedy under the PA Lemon Law is a new car (MSRP to MSRP swap), or a complete buyback of the car, including finance charges, taxes and tags, minus a small mileage offset based on the mileage when the problem was first reported. 
• A consumer could also receive monetary damages to reflect the diminished value of the car as a result of the problems suffered, plus they get to keep their car.  The car’s warranty remains in effect; the consumer does not need to disclose that they received money at the time of trade or sale; and the car is NOT branded a lemon on carfax or autocheck.
• Motorcycles and used cars are not covered, however if the vehicles are in the shop three or more times under warranty for the same problem, they could qualify for monetary recourse under the Federal Law. 
• Legal help is completely cost-free under both the State and Federal Laws.  If the consumer prevails, the manufacturer must pay all attorney fees and legal costs ON TOP OF what the consumer receives. If a lemon law firm does take your case, they should not charge you if you do not prevail.  Therefore, fighting for your rights under the Lemon Law is cost-free and risk-free.

If you have any additional questions regarding the Pennsylvania Lemon Law, click here.  To read about Lemon Laws in other states, click here.

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This morning, while taping a segment for the CW talk show “Speak Up,” we met up with one of our former clients, John Bryant.  John, an accomplished attorney himself, had endured several significant problems with his Cadillac. The battery kept dying, again and again, and he found himself back at the dealer on five different occasions.  He thought that General Motors would certainly do the right thing and exchange his car with a new one under the Pennsylvania Lemon Law.  When they refused, he upped the ante and told the dealer he would pay them $10,000 and turn in his car in exchange for a new car and he was still getting the run-around.  It was around that time that his daughter got involved.  She had heard about Kimmel & Silverman and she looked up lemon law.com on-line.  Once John contacted us, we started representation and shortly after, John received an MSRP to MSRP swap, exchanging his 2003 Cadillac for a 2008 Cadillac.  He paid NO attorney fees (as you know, if we can help, it is completely free) and only paid $2,400 in mileage and upgrade offset, MUCH LESS than what he offered the dealer.   Needless to say, he was thrilled.

So, what’s the moral of the story?  Dealers can only do so much to help the consumer.  When dealing with a lemon law or breach of warranty issue, the defendant is NOT the dealer; it is the manufacturer. Many a dealer has whispered “1-800-LEMON-LAW’ to their customers over the years.  They do this because they know they have no control, and really want to help.  If you find yourself in a similar situation, don’t bend the dealer’s ear, hoping that he will come to your rescue.  Instead, research your lemon law and breach of warranty rights, make sure you keep all of your repair invoices, and look into hiring a lemon law attorney.  It is cost-free and risk-free.

For those in the Delaware Valley, “Speak Up” will air this Sunday morning at 8am on CW57. In addition to John, the program will feature lemon law attorney Amy Bennecoff and Director of Communications & Automotive Consumer Advocate Michael Sacks.

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While Pennsylvania has always had a lemon law for new cars, Philadelphia has now instituted a lemon law for used cars sold in the city. Mayor Nutter has signed Philadelphia’s first Used Car Lemon Law Bill, sponsored by Councilman Darrell L. Clarke.  The Used Car Lemon Law ensures that purchasers of used cars in Philadelphia have the opportunity to have the car inspected by a licensed mechanic with 72 hours of purchase.  If a major structural defect is found, the consumer has the right to have to return the car for repair or a full refund.

Here are the details:

**A purchaser of a used car may return their vehicle within 72 hours after purchase if it is unable to pass safety or emissions inspections or found by a certified inspection mechanic to have an undisclosed major structural defect (The mechanic MUST put his findings in writing.)

**Upon return of the car, the dealer has 10 days to either fix the car, entirely at their own expense, or refund the consumer’s money.

**Dealer must also provide a copy of any written warranty to the purchaser within 15 days of payment for the warranty, and shall perform all repairs covered under the warranty promptly. At the time of purchase, the delaer MUST disclose in lareg capital letters whether the warranty is provided by the dealer, the manufacturer or a third-party warranty.

**If you purchased a used car and feel the dealer is not upholding their responsibilities, contact the Philadelphia Office of Consumer Affairs at 215-686-7598. They will take complaints and determine their merit.  Repeat offenders face possible suspension or revocation of their Automotbile Sales License and/or Business Privilege License.

Kudos to Mayor Nutter, Councilman Clark and Lance Haver at the Consumer Affairs Office for making this happen.

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