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Dealing with the Dealer

August 26, 2008 By: LemonLaw Category: Car Lemon Law, Warranty, dealerships, service managers No Comments →

Throughout this blog, you may find a few statements that we repeat over and over again.  Why?  Because no matter how many times we say it, people still don’t believe it.  So, here we are again, reminding you that in most lemon law and breach of warranty claims, THE DEALER IS NOT THE DEFENDANT.  They are merely the middlemen and they do not have the authority to get you a buy back or a new vehicle.  Rather, it’s the manufacturer who is the defendant and many times when a service manager can’t do anymore to fix or diagnose a problem, they will whisper 1-800 LEMON LAW under their breath.  Treat your service team with respect and try your best not to air your frustration with them.  You rely on them to help you get your vehicle repaired and you do not want to create a hostile relationship.

Today, we thought we would give you some tips on how to deal with the dealer when your car is in the shop.

First and foremost, when bringing your car into the shop and describing your problem to the service manager, try and be as detailed as possible.   Is there a leak?  Where is the leak coming from?  Do you smell mold?  Is your floor mat wet?  Did you see water spots in your headliner?  Is there a noise?  What does the noise sound like?  Is it coming from the front or rear?  Is it in the morning when you are starting the car up, or after the car is running?  Is it on highways or in the neighborhood?  Every detail, description or clue can help the service manager and his team properly diagnose the problem.

You may also want to visit the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration website prior to your repair to determine if there are technical service bulletins or similar consumer complaints on your vehicle. Bring this information with you to show the service manager.

When you pick up your car, make sure that you give the service manager a few minutes to discuss which reapirs were done.  Don’t hesitate to ask questions if you don’t understand something. And, most importantly, always ask for a repair invoice.  Now, some folks may say “My car is under warranty.  Why would I need an invoice?” Invoices provide a paper trail which is the key to any lemon law or breach of warranty claim.  They outline the problem you complained about, what was done to fix the problem, a list of any components that may have been replaced, and dates the vehicle was in the shop.  Make sure you get a receipt at the time you pick up your car.  Do not let them mail it to you.  You want to review it to make sure everything is correct and if not you want them to revise it on the spot.  Also, it’s very important to keep these invoices in a safe place, and we don’t mean the “circular file.”  These invoices could be your ticket to getting out of a lemon car. Once you have three invoices for the same problem, you want to consult a lemon law attorney to see if you are entitled to remedy under State and/or Federal Law.

Questions regarding your repairs and how to deal with your service manager?  E-mail us and we will be glad to answer them. 

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Don’t Be Put On The Spot!

July 29, 2008 By: LemonLaw Category: Car Dealership Fraud, car sales, dealerships, spot delivery No Comments →

As we have reported repeatedly on this blog, car sales are down big time! As a result, dealers are doing everything they can to make a sale.  Unfortunately, some dealers are more concerned with getting the cars off the lot immediately than they are about securing financing for their customers.  And as new car sales continue to be more competitive, we are receiving a plethora of calls at 1-800 LEMON LAW regarding a dealer tactic known as spot delivery.

Most folks have heard of this tactic before.  An alleged spot delivery transaction between a NJ consumer and the Brad Benson dealership found its way on National TV (and throughout cyberspace).  Spot Delivery occurs when a dealer puts a consumer in a new car “on the spot,” with the consumer signing a number of documents, including a retail sales agreement.  Later on, the customer starts receiving calls tellling them their financing did not go through. In most cases, they are trying to get the customer to come back to pay more money than they originally agreed to.   Some dealers play dirty when this occurs.  They may threaten repossession, or not pay off a trade-in, or make numerous threatening phone calls. And in most cases, customers feel trapped into paying more money.

So, what should you do? You need to stand your ground.  If you signed purchase doucments and registration applications, obtained insurance, and a new license plate installed or an old plate transferred, the car belongs to you.  Here are some other tips to follow if you find yourself in a spot delivery situation:

  • Keep all copies of your paperwork and anything else associated with the sale (including calendars, photographs, advertisements). If the finance manager asks for your papers at any time for any reason, refuse! Keep these documents in a safe place, not the car.
  • If you are called back to the dealership to sign additional papers, either do not go or do so in a different car than the one you bought.
  • Have a friend or spouse drive you and witness whatever is being told to you. This will prevent the dealer from taking your car as hostage, an all too common happening.
  • If a dispute arises with the dealer over the contract and the dealer demands the car is returned, park it in a garage or remote location until the matter is resolved, to prevent it from being taken against your wishes.
  • Put together a complete time line of everything that happened from the time you thought of purchasing the car until the car was taken away. Try to remember specific names of dealership personnel and any statements that were made to you during conversations with the sales and finance staff.
  • Keep track of all monies you had invested into the purchase, including registration, insurance, down payment and trade. Never pay cash and always get a receipt!

If after reading this, you realize that you are a victim of spot delivery, you may want to contact a consumer attorney to take action. At this time, we are handling spot delivery claims in Pennsylvania and New Jersey. If you are in either state, please contact us via e-mail or by calling Michael Sacks, Director of Client Services at 1-800 LEMON LAW (1-800-536-6652) ext. 131.  If you reside in another state, contact your attorney general or check out our attorney directory.

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Pop Quiz! How’s Your Auto Aptitude?

July 21, 2008 By: LemonLaw Category: Car Buying, Car Lemon Law, Lemon Law, Vehicle Fraud, consumer rights, dealerships, financing, used cars No Comments →

Yes, I know we are in the middle of a hot, humid Summer….no better time to surprise you with a pop quiz on your knowledge relating to the lemon law and car buying.  No matter what time of year, it’s important to be prepared when either buying a new or used car, or filing a lemon law claim.  So, grab that #2 pencil and let’s see how much you know….

1) TRUE OR FALSE: If I buy a car and something goes wrong with it, I have three days to return the car.  It’s the law. 

2) TRUE OR FALSE: Once I have driven the car off the lot and signed a sales agreement, there is no way a dealer can change the price on me.

3) TRUE OR FALSE:  If I purchase a car and later figure out that I can’t afford to make the payments, I can return the car and it won’t affect my credit as long as I can prove financial hardship.

4) TRUE OR FALSE: I can ask the dealer to show me what he paid for the car he is selling.

5) TRUE OR FALSE: If I buy a used car and the car has been in an accident, the dealer must tell me that prior to sale.

6) TRUE OR FALSE: The Lemon Law not only applies to major problems, such as the transmission and engine, but also to electrical problems, water leaks, rattles and paint.

7) TRUE OR FALSE: If a new car is in the shop for 30 days in the first year, regardless of whether it’s for the same or different problems, the driver can file a lemon law claim.

8 ) TRUE OR FALSE: If I have a manufacturers warranty and something goes wrong with my car, I have to take it to the dealer when I purchased the car, even if it is far from my home.

9) TRUE OR FALSE: Used cars are covered under the State Lemon Laws.

10) TRUE OR FALSE:  A consumer under the age of 25 may be denied a loaner while their car is in service because of their age.

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The Dealer Can Only Do So Much….

July 09, 2008 By: LemonLaw Category: Car Lemon Law, Defective Car, GM, General Motors, Lemon Law, PA Lemon Law, Pennsylvania Lemon Law, TV interview, cadillac, consumer rights, dealerships No Comments →

This morning, while taping a segment for the CW talk show “Speak Up,” we met up with one of our former clients, John Bryant.  John, an accomplished attorney himself, had endured several significant problems with his Cadillac. The battery kept dying, again and again, and he found himself back at the dealer on five different occasions.  He thought that General Motors would certainly do the right thing and exchange his car with a new one under the Pennsylvania Lemon Law.  When they refused, he upped the ante and told the dealer he would pay them $10,000 and turn in his car in exchange for a new car and he was still getting the run-around.  It was around that time that his daughter got involved.  She had heard about Kimmel & Silverman and she looked up lemon law.com on-line.  Once John contacted us, we started representation and shortly after, John received an MSRP to MSRP swap, exchanging his 2003 Cadillac for a 2008 Cadillac.  He paid NO attorney fees (as you know, if we can help, it is completely free) and only paid $2,400 in mileage and upgrade offset, MUCH LESS than what he offered the dealer.   Needless to say, he was thrilled.

So, what’s the moral of the story?  Dealers can only do so much to help the consumer.  When dealing with a lemon law or breach of warranty issue, the defendant is NOT the dealer; it is the manufacturer. Many a dealer has whispered “1-800-LEMON-LAW’ to their customers over the years.  They do this because they know they have no control, and really want to help.  If you find yourself in a similar situation, don’t bend the dealer’s ear, hoping that he will come to your rescue.  Instead, research your lemon law and breach of warranty rights, make sure you keep all of your repair invoices, and look into hiring a lemon law attorney.  It is cost-free and risk-free.

For those in the Delaware Valley, “Speak Up” will air this Sunday morning at 8am on CW57. In addition to John, the program will feature lemon law attorney Amy Bennecoff and Director of Communications & Automotive Consumer Advocate Michael Sacks.

 

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